Monday, 03 September 2012
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Automotive Meanderings
Well, hullo interwebs. How was your Labor day?
I spent mine car shopping. Whee.
So, I set out with the thought in mind, as it has been for the past year or so, that the Hyundai Accent would be the car for me. My dad owned one for 10 years, and two of my friends owned them and loved them. It's a cute little compact sort of car, and I had driven my dad's before and liked it. Perfect, right?
With that thought in mind as the ideal, Dad went online and did a search for the 10 cheapest cars on the market today, and then for dealers nearby where they might be purchased. Thus, we began our valiant quest.
First stop was a Toyota dealer, to look at the Yaris. I had seen Yarises...Yarii? around and thought they were cute, but didn't know how affordable. Well, they made the bottom ten in price, so apparently pretty affordable. The sales dude was young but knowledgeable, and very nice. We talked for a bit, I sat in the car, he asked if I wanted to test drive, I said sure.
Well, apparently the only test drive-able car was the one on the show room floor, so they had to maneuver a bunch of cars out of the way first before I could drive it, which took way longer than I would have liked. Eventually, we were able to take it on the road. I liked the size and the handling and the maneuverability and all that jazz. They tried to get us to buy it right away, by giving us $500 bucks for my car, sight unseen (we'd taken Dad's car out for this trip). We said thanks but no thanks, since we definitely didn't plan to buy anything today, and went on our merry way.
Second stop was the Kia dealer down the road, since the Kia Rio is basically the same as the Hyundai Accent (and Kia is part of Hyundai). The one they had in the showroom was way bigger than what I wanted, and the salesman swore that it did not come in a two-door variety. The overall selection at the dealer was pretty small, and Dad came away with the conclusion that the place must be going out of business, since despite huge signs advertising "CLEARANCE", there were very few customers (in contrast to the Toyota dealer, which was jammed) and only three cars on the showroom floor. We only spent about 5 minutes at that place, and went away very unimpressed.
Third stop was a Mazda/Hyundai dealer which did not have any Accents on the floor, but they did have a large selection out in the lot behind the building, which the salesman drove us out to on a golf cart. The Accent was a disappointment, as it has been completely redesigned from the cute little thing it was into an ordinary, dull sedan. The price has also gone up to match. We drove it around the lot, just to appease the sales guy, but I had already decided in my mind that I no longer wanted this car.
He then showed us the Mazda M2, which was much more in the size range that I wanted (and a bit more in the price range as well). I liked the way it handled as I drove it, and I liked the size, though Dad felt it was much smaller-feeling on the inside, in contrast to the Yaris which had not felt cramped. The salesman obviously wanted us to buy a Hyundai instead, since he kept emphasizing the better warranty and construction, and the fact that we might be able to work a deal out of the fact that Dad had purchased a car from them before, although his most recent Hyundai purchase was not at that dealership.
Overall, I felt the Mazda was good enough to keep on my list of possibles.
Next, we went to a Chevy dealer, with the idea that we would look at the Sonic and also something neither Dad nor I had heard of before called the Spark. The Sonic looked kind of big to me, and when we saw the Spark from across the room, Dad at first thought it was too small. However, it was very roomy inside. The salesman told us that the Sparks have been selling like crazy since they came out, which was only about 4 months ago, and people were actually waiting for it to be released so they could buy it. The dashboard configuration is odd; it's just two little circles above the steering wheel, one with the speedometer and the rest a digital display of the tachometer, mileage, and current gear.
We took the base model out for a spin, a simple model in a neon green color called "Jalapeno." According to the salesman, it comes in white, black, Jalapeno, Salsa (a red-orange) and Denim blue. Despite the fact that it was the base with no extra options, it felt pretty luxurious inside, although new cars always feel luxurious compared to my own broken-in model.
I wasn't impressed with the acceleration, and it felt a little sluggish, but such is the case with small, cheap cars. In all honesty, I think unless I get a turbo-charged 6-cylinder, I'll never be pleased with a car's acceleration.
So after that we sought out another Kia dealer, which had none of the Rio in stock. We drove down the road a bit more and found another Kia dealer which was closed, but did have a Rio outside on display so we could see that it was basically the Hyundai Accent and I was overall unimpressed with that, as I'm sure you've guessed from my description of the Accent. The same thing happened with the Suzuki dealer, which was closed. Our goal there was to see the Sx4, which is actually quite cute as a hatchback, but a little more expensive than I'd like to spend. The sedan model was a sedan, (boring!) and also on the higher end of the price range.
To conclude, my list of car possibilities includes the Toyota Yaris, the Mazda M2, and the Chevy Spark. Right now the Chevy is at the top of my list for several reasons.
1. It's cute! Although I don't think I'll get it in Jalapeno green. Also, it's new and flashy and most people have never heard of it, so it'll be one of those "first on the block" sort of situations and everyone will be envious of me. Or perhaps just curious. Perhaps people will stop me in parking lots and say, "What is that?"
2. The price. Although this was the base model with no options (and the other cars I looked at were not the lowest-available prices) this was the cheapest, and the base model seemed to have enough amenities to make me happy. Also, one of my aunts used to work for GM, and might be able to get me a discount. Also, since I current own a GM car (a Saturn) I might get some sort of loyalty type pricing there as well, making it even MORE affordable.
Anyway, anyone have any thoughts for or against those cars? I've got some time to make a decision and see which dealers might give better pricing, and my car might have another few months in it before it kicks the bucket. So there's no real rush, and I'd like to get a few opinions from others.
Thus was today. Tomorrow, back to work!
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Comments (23)
It's a good thing you aren't going with a Kia. They suck.
Good luck with the car hunt. I do more highway driving than anything else. If I had the cash, I'd get a Matix.
i know nothing. but i just wanted to share that a local dealership has this totally sweet neon green pick up on the lot. and i kinda want it a little bit. because it's neon green. jalapeno and salsa? i would buy that one just for the color names. everybody needs a little salsa. good grief i'm sitting here trying to remember the color name of my car now and my second car (a neon which i loved and it had a great color name. somewhere out there in space. i need a life. i'm going to google now. except that i can't remember what year my car is. the neon was blue iris. the van might be aquamarine. whatever. seriously. i have lost my mind with this. )
@Rob_of_the_Sky - So I've heard. Though I've also known people who've had them for ages and loved them.
@Zoz36 - They are cute, but bigger than what I want. I remember being somewhat impressed with the Matrix when it came out, but now it seems like every car maker has something in a similar shape.
@promisesunshine - I remember when they came out with the Neon and I saw the commercial for it. I wasn't yet driving age, or maybe I was but I wasn't driving since I didn't get my license until after I'd finished college, but I said, "I want that car." It looked so cute! Also, half the reason I liked the Mazda was because they had it in this color called Aqua something or other and I loved the color. Dunno if I'd get the Jalapeno, probably the Denim is more me.
@leaflesstree - great car. and if it wasn't for baby seats, i'd still be driving that bad boy. well. and the fact that we have too much stuff when we travel. when we used to travel. ha.
Good luck in your hunt! I am going to have to get a new one myself one of these years so I'll be interested to see what you pick and how you like it.
We just traded in hubby's old car for a new one... it took weeks and weeks of hunting, reading and searching (the internet really helps)... may I say hubby's new wheels is 4 cyclinders (and a easy glide trans) giving it a smooth shift, plenty of get up and go and supurb gas milage. plenty of room for hubby and son ski trips (gave up that hobby when I was with child) ...
I still drive a stick after all these years and am so not ready to trade my 2 seater in yet)...
Did you drive everything? Haggle over everything? I am told the end of the month is a good time to buy a car (so sales folk get in that last car for commission)...
i would still check out the consumer reports about the cars you are looking at. the spark is too new and may not be listed. Hyundai has been doing really well with their cars. i dont think the yartis got good reviews, but i could be wrong. mazda has not been doing well lately, think. i think it is worth the look at what consumer reports says about the cars.
good luck
Don't know a darn thing about any of them
@lanney - I think it's a pretty painless process if you know what you want. My mom, for example, had her heart set on a Subaru Outback. We went to the dealer and test drove it, and then she said, "Ok, I'll take it." Of course, it helped that she had saved up the money to buy it and we didn't shop around at all. So I should add that it's a painless process if you have a ton of money. :)
@GoneRetired - Yes, so I've heard, about the end of the month. I haven't gotten to the haggling yet, but I intend to check out a bunch of dealers and see who gives the best price. I did drive everything I was interested in, they were all about the same overall.
@buddy71 - The guy who was trying to get me to buy the Hyundai said that, while Mazda does have a loyal following, he didn't think they were really great quality. Of course, the Hyundai was more expensive and so his opinion was biased. I definitely plan to check any online reviews I can find for the Spark. I know that often when they come out with new cars, the first few have some issues that get ironed out in later years. Hopefully that is not the case here.
@randaness - well thanks that was darn helpful of you!
the 2012 consumer reports auto guide rates the yaris as much better than average but it is not one of theirrecommended. might try looking at the corolla. the hyundai was listed as new, but the kia soul is recommended. most of the hyundais were rec'd. the ford focus has been getting good reviews but it is also new. the chevy spark was listed as new
Well that's never going to be the case with me. I save but I don't get anywhere.
My first suggestion would be to stay the hell away from American cars. They are absolute crap. Americans simply cannot build cars. Do not even give the Spark a second glance. Don't touch the Mazda either. Ford owns Mazda, so they too are absolute crap.
@GoneRetired - The Neon is famous for being one of the worst cars ever built in automotive history. Along with the Chevy Cavalier. Both cars are reasons why both GM and CHRYSLER went bankrupt.
We bought a new plain jane chev aveo brabd new three years ago. The second week we had it we got t boned in the drivers door and even though the person had insurance, the value of the car went way down the toilet.
it has been recalled twice and has had to have parts replaced.On the elev form on line I stated I was not impressed.@Grannys_Place - They don't make the Aveo anymore I learned. It's been replaced with the Sonic, which is too big for what I want. The Aveos I've seen on the road looked smaller to me. Maybe because of all the problems.
@leaflesstree - wow I just checked and you are right, the 2012 aveo is the last year.
@Grannys_Place - only reason I know that is because as we were looking at the sonic, the guy said, "Oh, I see you are looking at the Aveo," and we said, "but the sign says Sonic," and he said, "Oh yeah I keep forgetting. This is replacing it, I keep saying Aveo."